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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
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    This is great, I will let the forum know my findings. My car doesn't flatline at all (Cobb PROTuned by me but fortunately an I8A0S) but the shift speed will be a great addition with the cars increased power.
    Definitely good stuff. Just FYI, many 6ATs don't encounter the flatline issue at all. Also, at least one of the 6AT cars that used to have it (IJE0S ROM) consistently in 5th now has full timing going WOT in 5th. For instance, on I8A0S also, @enrita never flatlined 5th.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Let you know when we get a 6AT car to run the 4-5 shift test.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Is it work with MT?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Alex P. Click here to enlarge
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    Is it work with MT?
    This is a flash for the automatic transmissions. 6MT cars never had the flatline in 5th gear issue.
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    Just did the flash now waiting for the 5 mins, fingers crossed....


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    If there is anyone in So Cal who has done this and is willing to offer their services that would be great, after doing the research this will work on the E60 platform as well, so anyone that wants to help please let me know, would pay for your time.

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    Flat Line Fix PROOF

    @themyst

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    Like I had promised everyone, it finally cleared up and I was able to take 3 logs of the Alpina TCM flash illustrating that we have a SUCCESSFUL FLAT LINE FIX!! Inside the zip'd folder, you'll find three logs illustrating that the Alpina TCM has returned timing in 5th gear in varying scenarios:

    1. A 3rd into 5th Gear Pull
    2. A 4th into 5th Gear Pull
    3. A Strict 5th Gear Pull


    Benzy89 Alpina TCM Logs.zip

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    Thanks to everyone who worked on discovering the Alpina TCM, specifically Steven (Cn555ic) for finding the software in INPA and @Wedge1967 for being brave + the 1st person to flash their car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Kylu II Click here to enlarge
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    Just did the flash now waiting for the 5 mins, fingers crossed....
    i think the flash was successful, when i put it in drive it shows as "D1" and when i switch it to D/S it shows "S1".
    i scaned it with the BT tool and im getting the following erros but no thans light on the dash..

    under trans
    511B
    Coding error
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Short circuit or signal interruption

    under engine
    Click here to enlarge CD99
    CD99 Message (torque requirement EGS electronic gear control, B5)
    Error will cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
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    CD9D Message (gear data, BA)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CDAD
    CDAD Message (requirement road wheel torque drive line, BF)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CDA1
    CDA1 Message (steering wheel angle, C4)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CDA8
    CDA8 Message (Status KOMBI, 1B4)
    Error will cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

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    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CD98
    CD98 Message (torque requirement DSC dynamic stability control, B6)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
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    CD9C Message (speed, 1A0)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CDA5
    CDA5 Message (status DSC dynamic stability control, 19E)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CD95
    CD95 Message (operation cruise control/ACC active cruise control, 194)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CDA0
    CDA0 Message (terminal state, 130)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
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    CDB0 Message (display gear data)
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Speed 0.00 km/h
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    motor status 0.00 0-n
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    2DC3 Control clamp 15
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

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    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    motor status 0.00 0-n
    voltage Kl. 87 12.19 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    Click here to enlarge CD94
    CD94 Message (outside temperature / relative time, 310)
    Error will cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C
    voltage Kl. 87 12.29 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
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    2F4C Message EWS-DME digital motor electronics electronic vehicle immobilization-digital motor electronics failure
    Error will not cause a warning light
    Error is not currently present
    Test conditions have been completed
    Timeout

    Click here to enlargeFreeze Frame Information Event 1
    Odometer 68728kms 42705miles
    Engine speed 0.00 rpm
    voltage Kl. 87 12.29 V
    status motor control 0.00 0-n
    control unit inside temperature 12.75 C


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    Holy error codes. If you clear them do they come back? Does it drive?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Kylu II Click here to enlarge
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    i think the flash was successful, when i put it in drive it shows as "D1" and when i switch it to D/S it shows "S1".
    That sounds right. When you turn the car, you shouldn't get ANY abnormal CEL/SES lights on your dash. When you put in Drive, it should appear as "D# of gear you're in", when you initially put it in Sport it should appear "S# of gear" and Manual mode should appear as "M# of gear you've selected"
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    Why the crap doesn't this work on the pre 03/07 models!!! I have the 09/06... BMW sucks.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    @themyst

    ---------------------------------------------

    Like I had promised everyone, it finally cleared up and I was able to take 3 logs of the Alpina TCM flash illustrating that we have a SUCCESSFUL FLAT LINE FIX!! Inside the zip'd folder, you'll find three logs illustrating that the Alpina TCM has returned timing in 5th gear in varying scenarios:

    1. A 3rd into 5th Gear Pull
    2. A 4th into 5th Gear Pull
    3. A Strict 5th Gear Pull


    Benzy89 Alpina TCM Logs.zip

    Details of my car:
    • 2008 E90 335i (6AT / Stock Turbos / OEM Sport Package with Paddles)
    • COBB PTF ProTune for 93 Octane (IJE0S ROM)
    • aFe Dual Cone Intake
    • Akrapovic Catless Downpipes
    • Helix Front Mounted Intercooler
    • Evolution Racewerks Charge Pipe
    • Forge Motorsport Diverter Valves (Yellow Springs)
    • Burger Motorsports Oil Catch Can
    • Alpina TCM Module (Coded by @Cn555ic )


    Thanks to everyone who worked on discovering the Alpina TCM, specifically Steven (Cn555ic) for finding the software in INPA and @Wedge1967 for being brave + the 1st person to flash their car.
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    Okay some breaking news on the front. I have flashed 4 cars so far. 2 were from 2007 and 2 were from 2008. The flash was fine without a hiccup. Today I get a text of someone who flashed their 2010 and told me the paddle shifters no longer worked for some strange reason but everything else was functional. I told him I will check into that. Well this afternoon I had someone come over with their 2009 to get the flash and what do u know the paddle shifters no longer worked. Everything else performed like butter. Guy loved it. Told him I have no idea what the story is but I will dig into it. It's seem very strange that it looks as though MSD80 flashes without incident but MSD81 cars have issues with paddles not working. Alpina was debut in 2011, I can't see it using the older version MSD80. Guys anyone code a 2009 and up with no issues and have paddle shifters still working. So far 2009 and a 2010 the shifter is non functional. Need more feedback on this before I even flash another car 2009 and up.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Suii Click here to enlarge
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    If there is anyone in So Cal who has done this and is willing to offer their services that would be great, after doing the research this will work on the E60 platform as well, so anyone that wants to help please let me know, would pay for your time.
    Wont the lack of paddle shifters cause an error? I was under the impression that the Alpina flash required 03/07 or newer, AND the paddle shifters.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Cn555ic Click here to enlarge
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    Okay some breaking news on the front. I have flashed 4 cars so far. 2 were from 2007 and 2 were from 2008. The flash was fine without a hiccup. Today I get a text of someone who flashed their 2010 and told me the paddle shifters no longer worked for some strange reason but everything else was functional. I told him I will check into that. Well this afternoon I had someone come over with their 2009 to get the flash and what do u know the paddle shifters no longer worked. Everything else performed like butter. Guy loved it. Told him I have no idea what the story is but I will dig into it. It's seem very strange that it looks as though MSD80 flashes without incident but MSD81 cars have issues with paddles not working. Alpina was debut in 2011, I can't see it using the older version MSD80. Guys anyone code a 2009 and up with no issues and have paddle shifters still working. So far 2009 and a 2010 the shifter is non functional. Need more feedback on this before I even flash another car 2009 and up.
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    Well, do you want the paddles or do you want to go FAST? Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Well, do you want the paddles or do you want to go FAST? Click here to enlarge

    +1 I told @Cn555ic basically the same thing... Hopefully we can find another file for the 09 newer cars.

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    cleared the codes, went for a drive, codes didn't came back, holy $#@!.

    car is like a whole different animal now! i want to try it on the drag soon, suppose to rain/snow this weekend Click here to enlarge.

    quick note, the oil temps seem to climb faster on "S" mode due to the car staying on higher revs...
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    guess your not old and useless like jerry said..


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    This is great and all for the AT guys. Is there anything useful for MT in the electronics area (i.e., radio, iPhone compatibility, bluetooth, etc.)?

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    guess your not old and useless like jerry said..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
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    I "hear" with the trans flash the trans shifts much faster, similar to the automatic in the F30s. No change with post shift timing though.
    I called it! After doing a lot of research on these type of "manufacturer Transmission flash upgrades", I found that they are always related to shift feel. So yes you can indeed change the feel of the transmission with the programing. And Yes, Alpina lists themselves as a manufacturer. The only other thing these flash updates change is shifting speed. However the difference is measured in mirco seconds, and thus does not impact acceleration numbers.

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    Just called Dinan HQ because I couldn't get a straight answer on the internet. The MSD81 has been installed on every N54 equipped car from September 2009+. It's also possible that if you originally had an MSD80 originally and it needed to be replaced, that you now have an MSD80.


    Not sure how there aren't an errors being thrown when the MSD81 cars have this installed & the paddles are no longer functional, but I know that Steven (Cn555ic) is going to work on this until he finds out what's going on. This is really weird because even Alpina list the MSD81 Engine Management module under the tech specs on the B3 GT3 Coupe (http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/en...ata/coupe.html), so there is no explanation why we're getting errors with the exact same software on the MSD module as the Alpina cars.


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    I called it! After doing a lot of research on these type of "manufacturer Transmission flash upgrades", I found that they are always related to shift feel. So yes you can indeed change the feel of the transmission with the programing. And Yes, Alpina lists themselves as a manufacturer. The only other thing these flash updates change is shifting speed. However the difference is measured in mirco seconds, and thus does not impact acceleration numbers.
    Post #58, there's 3 logs I took today that illustrate the Alpina flash has actually fixed post shift timing. So you didn't call anything, not only does the 6AT shift faster, smoother & is more responsive, it has also cured the flat lining problem.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Just called Dinan HQ because I couldn't get a straight answer on the internet. The MSD81 has been installed on every N54 equipped car from September 2009+. It's also possible that if you originally had an MSD80 originally and it needed to be replaced, that you now have an MSD80.


    Not sure how there aren't an errors being thrown when the MSD81 cars have this installed & the paddles are no longer functional, but I know that Steven (Cn555ic) is going to work on this until he finds out what's going on. This is really weird because even Alpina list the MSD81 Engine Management module under the tech specs on the B3 GT3 Coupe (http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/en...ata/coupe.html), so there is no explanation why we're getting errors with the exact same software on the MSD module as the Alpina cars.



    Post #58, there's 3 logs I took today that illustrate the Alpina flash has actually fixed post shift timing. So you didn't call anything, not only does the 6AT shift faster, smoother & is more responsive, it has also cured the flat lining problem.
    I have an 01/09 build and it has MSD81. My 135i was a 10/08 build and it had an MSD81. Looks like Dinan was incorrect.

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    IIRC MSD81 came out around 3/2008.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
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    I have an 01/09 build and it has MSD81. My 135i was a 10/08 build and it had an MSD81. Looks like Dinan was incorrect.
    Are you the original owner on both cars? Like I said, it's possible that the module was replaced by a dealer with the upgraded unit. Until someone provides evidence that provides another concrete data, I'm going to take Dinan's word as law.

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    IIRC MSD81 came out around 3/2008.
    If it did, it doesn't explain why everything is working completely fine (paddles & all) on my 335 that was made in 06/2008.
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