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    XKR-S Faster than F13 M6 around VIR

    Lap Times from Annual Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2013 @ VIR

    Ferrari 458 - 2.49.9
    Lexus LFA - 2.55.1
    Chevy Camaro ZL1 - 2.57.5
    Merc C63 Black Series - 2.58.0
    Porsche 911 S - 2.58.9
    Ford Shelby GT500 - 3.00.6
    Chevy Camaro SS 1LE - 3.01.5
    Jaguar XKR-S - 3.02.1
    Porsche Boxster S - 3.04.2
    Audi RS5 - 3.04.3
    BMW M6 - 3.04.7
    BMW M5 - 3.05.2
    Audi S6 - 3.09.8
    BMW 335i sedan - 3.13.2
    Hyundai Genesis 3.8 R - 3.13.9
    Dodge Charger Pursuit - 3.17.8
    Subaru BRZ - 3.18.6
    Ford Focus St - 3.21.4
    Fiat 500 Abarth - 3.27.3

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    Camaro ZL-1 faster than both... Good test I love the lightning lap they do every year.
    We stay swingin...

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    what was the 1M time?
    ​#Chuckstrong

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    OK...just did a search....the e92 m3 did VIR 4 seconds slower than Camaro but 10 seconds faster on the ring? That would tell me that the M3 is faster at high speeds but the Camaro handles better right?
    ​#Chuckstrong

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    I am impressed by that time. It's 6 seconds faster than the old M6. Very very impressive on BMW's part regardless if its slower than the XKR-S.

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    ZL1 did work

    60 grand for that.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
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    Camaro ZL-1 faster than both... Good test I love the lightning lap they do every year.
    Even the Camaro SS with 1LE package is faster than both

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KB Click here to enlarge
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    OK...just did a search....the e92 m3 did VIR 4 seconds slower than Camaro but 10 seconds faster on the ring? That would tell me that the M3 is faster at high speeds but the Camaro handles better right?
    thats incorrect my friend The Camaro is 30 sec faster than the M3 around the ring

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    anyone else not feeling let down by that?




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MrClean335i Click here to enlarge
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    thats incorrect my friend The Camaro is 30 sec faster than the M3 around the ring
    I was looking at the Camaro SS numbers.....unless I am missing something.
    ​#Chuckstrong

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
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    Camaro ZL-1 faster than both... Good test I love the lightning lap they do every year.
    Funny isn't it. The whale of a car is lining up next to supercar territory. Just amazes me. The m6 losing to a boxter s. Something is up with the BMW driver. I wish these tests were by the same driver so it's FACTUAL data. This is good data just meh.

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    Yeah I hear you bro... The test would be awesome with say two or three drivers who are very consistent time wise to one another. Either way its a clear idea of where these cars are. The Charger Pusuit aint exactly slow LOL
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
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    Yeah I hear you bro... The test would be awesome with say two or three drivers who are very consistent time wise to one another. Either way its a clear idea of where these cars are. The Charger Pusuit aint exactly slow LOL
    Pretty much that would sum it up.

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    Anyone have a scan of the magazine?

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    How does the Camaro ss lose 8 seconds and its the same car? This is not adding up. Even with tire and suspension updates a 2-3 second quicker time is expected. Not 8 seconds.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by StinkyM Click here to enlarge
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    How does the Camaro ss lose 8 seconds and its the same car? This is not adding up. Even with tire and suspension updates a 2-3 second quicker time is expected. Not 8 seconds.
    Not the same car at all. Brakes suspension and power will easily make up for 8 seconds.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
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    Not the same car at all. Brakes suspension and power will easily make up for 8 seconds.
    I'm talking about the SS from 2010 and this SS. The 2010 SS went 3:10 vs this other SS that went 3:01. Was there that many updates between 2010 and now? Am I missing something?

    edit* just checked out Chevy.com and see the 1LE is the equivalent to the Boss 302. However, it's weight is still somewhat similar around 3900 lbs. I'm sorry but I'm not seeing how this equates to 8 seconds. In their defense though, they are incredibly consistent. Their E92 M3 times from 2 seperate years are .2 seconds apart. The first year they had some transmission issues with the DCT so they brought back a 6 speed manual car the following year.
    Last edited by StinkyM; 12-31-2012 at 02:54 AM.

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    Also the 1LE package does not add any power.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by StinkyM Click here to enlarge
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    I'm talking about the SS from 2010 and this SS. The 2010 SS went 3:10 vs this other SS that went 3:01. Was there that many updates between 2010 and now? Am I missing something?

    edit* just checked out Chevy.com and see the 1LE is the equivalent to the Boss 302. However, it's weight is still somewhat similar around 3900 lbs. I'm sorry but I'm not seeing how this equates to 8 seconds. In their defense though, they are incredibly consistent. Their E92 M3 times from 2 seperate years are .2 seconds apart. The first year they had some transmission issues with the DCT so they brought back a 6 speed manual car the following year.
    Ahh, I thought you were talking about ZL1 vs SS. I'm not too sure about that. It could be different drivers that leads to different experience in another car. I mean I don't think the Camaro SS is nearly as easy to drive as an M3.

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    I call BS.

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