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    so the cars dont have to be physicaly touched by Sal to get tuned.. interesting... i have to do some more research

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Now he's at 456rwhp/312tq at the kits lower boost level and an Evolve tune. Quite comparable to Norm's numbers as well.
    With the same gearing and the same boost? That's a hell of a power bump...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    so the cars dont have to be physicaly touched by Sal to get tuned.. interesting... i have to do some more research
    I would LOVE to see a comparison overlaid between the stock tune and evolve tune with your hardware. That would make for a hell of an article... think about it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    I would LOVE to see a comparison overlaid between the stock tune and evolve tune with your hardware. That would make for a hell of an article... think about it.
    not gonna lie.. im tempted now..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    so the cars dont have to be physicaly touched by Sal to get tuned.. interesting... i have to do some more research
    Nope.

    Just send him the drf files of your car in the current state. He will send you a new iteration based on the data. Rinse and repeat.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Nope.

    Just send him the drf files of your car in the current state. He will send you a new iteration based on the data. Rinse and repeat.
    Im aware of the process, but I would think its a bit different since they have no vortech S65 on hand and as far as i know it would be the first to do such a thing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    Im aware of the process, but I would think its a bit different since they have no vortech S65 on hand and as far as i know it would be the first to do such a thing.
    They are still setting a target based on RPM. With all the info it can be done and even done with you on the dyno at the same time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    Im aware of the process, but I would think its a bit different since they have no vortech S65 on hand and as far as i know it would be the first to do such a thing.
    They have already designed, built and tuned supercharged S62's, S54's, and they are about done with their S65 kit. I think it is safe to say they are familiar with tuning supercharged BMW V8's.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    They are still setting a target based on RPM. With all the info it can be done and even done with you on the dyno at the same time.
    Amen. Pick up a phone card for the UK and give old Sal a call to get this rolling.

    I know you want to add some more poor souls to your kill-list...

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    my z4m vt 500 will be heading over to evolve in early 2013, were going to do a proper dyno session and tune the car up.... im realy looking forward to seeing the results... i am buying the HJS SS section 1, adding shrick stage 3 CSL cams at the moment, im really looking forward to seeing the results... the plan is 470rwhp without having to use 10lbs of boost ;-) from what ive seen from evolve... these are my boys to do it, helps that i live 80 miles from them, CANT WAIT to post up results :-)

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    Any idea what Evolve could get a non intercooled VT2 kit to safely put down in comparison to ESS's tune?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by beedub Click here to enlarge
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    my z4m vt 500 will be heading over to evolve in early 2013, were going to do a proper dyno session and tune the car up.... im realy looking forward to seeing the results... i am buying the HJS SS section 1, adding shrick stage 3 CSL cams at the moment, im really looking forward to seeing the results... the plan is 470rwhp without having to use 10lbs of boost ;-) from what ive seen from evolve... these are my boys to do it, helps that i live 80 miles from them, CANT WAIT to post up results :-)

    byron
    Looking forward to seeing your results byron! With better flowing exhaust, VE is improved, and therefore power; all without increasing boost.


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JohnBlaze Click here to enlarge
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    Any idea what Evolve could get a non intercooled VT2 kit to safely put down in comparison to ESS's tune?
    I don't know for sure, but note that the beauty of the Evolve tunes is not just top end rwhp readings. It's improved throttle feel engine response due to better VANOS settings; less overlap, etc. Total driveability with the Evolve tune is what I enjoy.

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    Sweet, now I gotta decide on SC or Turbo.

    ps, your car is sick

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by talol85 Click here to enlarge
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    good review

    how about doing rms headers vs ss v1 headers ?

    i am in the market for a headers but really confused between these two !!!
    No one has any real comparisons between the RMS and SS Stepped Headers. Thats because RMS live in their own dream world.

    I've got SS V1's coming for my car paired with my RT cats. Click here to enlarge



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    I got a ride in Norm's beast yesterday. The blower whine was lovely.

    Norm's E46M = Smooth as butter with a side of holy $#@!.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Norm's E46M = Smooth as butter with a side of holy $#@!.
    I expect nothing less from Evolves tuning

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    I expect nothing less from Evolves tuning
    Power was linear and predictable. Nice upgrade to the complete chassis.

    I've rode in an HPF Stage 2 and 2.5. Power comes on violently and completely changes the character of the car. Although you are now able to thumb your nose at Z06's...

    Did I forget to mention that she's an optionless (no nav, no sunroof, etc) M with lots of lightweight goodies? I would guess the curb weight is just north of 3200.

    475 rwhp with 3.91 gears and a 3200 lb M car is about as good as it gets.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Power was linear and predictable. Nice upgrade to the complete chassis.

    I've rode in an HPF Stage 2 and 2.5. Power comes on violently and completely changes the character of the car. Although you are now able to thumb your nose at Z06's...

    Did I forget to mention that she's an optionless (no nav, no sunroof, etc) M with lots of lightweight goodies? I would guess the curb weight is just north of 3200.

    475 rwhp with 3.91 gears and a 3200 lb M car is about as good as it gets.
    ive been contemplating a gearing change, but fearful of loss in highway roll domination

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    ive been contemplating a gearing change, but fearful of loss in highway roll domination
    Seems like the DCT is well set up as is with 7 gears. I would be hesitant to alter the ratio unless it was a manual car or a very minor change.

    Your tuner on the other hand...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Seems like the DCT is well set up as is with 7 gears. I would be hesitant to alter the ratio unless it was a manual car or a very minor change.

    Your tuner on the other hand...
    DCT is set up to be quick under 100.

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    This makes me want an E46 M really bad
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    I got a ride in Norm's beast yesterday. The blower whine was lovely.

    Norm's E46M = Smooth as butter with a side of holy $#@!.
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    Power was linear and predictable. Nice upgrade to the complete chassis.

    I've rode in an HPF Stage 2 and 2.5. Power comes on violently and completely changes the character of the car. Although you are now able to thumb your nose at Z06's...

    Did I forget to mention that she's an optionless (no nav, no sunroof, etc) M with lots of lightweight goodies? I would guess the curb weight is just north of 3200.

    475 rwhp with 3.91 gears and a 3200 lb M car is about as good as it gets.
    I am way pleased with how the car feels; thanks Mike for your feedback.
    Looking forward to more updates on your project, and enjoyed driving your ///M as well. I've not had much of a chance to drive other folk's E46 M3's, so this was a treat.

    Just got a slightly revised file from Sal, with a bit more fueling at WOT. Will find out if this makes any power difference.

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    ordered my ss v1 headers castles sec 1 and evolve tune

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by talol85 Click here to enlarge
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    ordered my ss v1 headers castles sec 1 and evolve tune
    Congrats. You'll love it.



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    thanks bro i really think that 60 whp worth it

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by talol85 Click here to enlarge
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    thanks bro i really think that 60 whp worth it
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