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    Newbie, who's running the JB+ ?

    Not looking for huge hp, and harming my engine, so I am on the fence with a JB+ (simple cheap) or the JB4 (more hp, more $$) I do not have an oil cooler. Car is a 07 335i with 60K on her.

    I tried searching JB+ but nothing came up.

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    It's a great little tune. We still ship maybe 10 per week after all these years. Quick install, quick removal, and if you buy from us 100% trade up to a JB4 within six months. Most just get the JB4, though.
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    JB+ is a nice little boost but i suggest going the JB4 route. If you dont plan on getting serious with tuning/mods, then stick with the JB+. I would go with the JB4, as i know youll be back for more mods. They always are Click here to enlarge

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    I had one, it is a small boost in power, if thats all you plan on doing, go for it!




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    Buy the JB4 -- You'll enjoy the added benefits that it comes with: gauge hijacking, code reading, E85 blending, etc
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jefft Click here to enlarge
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    Not looking for huge hp, and harming my engine, so I am on the fence with a JB+ (simple cheap) or the JB4 (more hp, more $$) I do not have an oil cooler. Car is a 07 335i with 60K on her.

    I tried searching JB+ but nothing came up.
    I had a JB+ for 3 years, in my '07 that came without an oil cooler. It's a nice little boost controller, however it does have it's limitations. The current BMW software is extremely sensitive to mods, and after the update, I had codes with JB+, even at 50%. You will have to do a solenoid bypass, or you will keep throwing 30FF. Also note that with the stock software, you will throw 30FE in the cold, with JB+.

    Consider ditching that stock software, and replacing it with cobb. With cobb, you can run a mild setup for some nice horsepower. I Think all you need for stage 1 is an updated intercooler. I do highly recommend you do an oil cooler retrofit like I did.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
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    With cobb, you can run a mild setup for some nice horsepower. I Think all you need for stage 1 is an updated intercooler. I do highly recommend you do an oil cooler retrofit like I did.
    Just wanna correct this statement, COBB has 4 stages:
    • Stage 1 -- Completely stock application; intake recommended
    • Stage 1+ -- FMIC required upgrade, intake upgrade required
    • Stage 2 -- DPs and Intake required upgrades
    • Stage 2+ -- FMIC, DPs, and Intake required upgrades
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
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    I had a JB+ for 3 years, in my '07 that came without an oil cooler. It's a nice little boost controller, however it does have it's limitations. The current BMW software is extremely sensitive to mods, and after the update, I had codes with JB+, even at 50%. You will have to do a solenoid bypass, or you will keep throwing 30FF. Also note that with the stock software, you will throw 30FE in the cold, with JB+.

    Consider ditching that stock software, and replacing it with cobb. With cobb, you can run a mild setup for some nice horsepower. I Think all you need for stage 1 is an updated intercooler. I do highly recommend you do an oil cooler retrofit like I did.
    this post is full of mis-information. You should not throw a P30FF code (thats a boost leak code) with a Jb+.

    COBB has 4 stages:

    • Stage 1 -- Completely stock application; intake recommended
    • Stage 1+ -- FMIC required upgrade, intake upgrade required
    • Stage 2 -- DPs and Intake required upgrades
    • Stage 2+ -- FMIC, DPs, and Intake required upgrades


    Cobb or Jb4 or Proceede will all work and make you very happy OP.

    The JB+ will make you happy, just don't expect a lot of change.

    Im currently running a Cobb ProTuned with Meth and E85 without an oil cooler.




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    I had the JB+ as my first mod, its the gateway drug. I would suggest searching the classified on various bmw forums, you can typically find one for around $100, use it until you want more power, and turn around and sell it for what you purchased it for.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Just wanna correct this statement, COBB has 4 stages:
    • Stage 1 -- Completely stock application; intake recommended
    • Stage 1+ -- FMIC required upgrade, intake upgrade required
    • Stage 2 -- DPs and Intake required upgrades
    • Stage 2+ -- FMIC, DPs, and Intake required upgrades
    Should probably be noted that intake can be as simple as a better flwoing drop in.

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    Thank you everyone, jesh, 1st post and i get all this info within 6 hours! Great forum. Still on the fence though, but will start looking for a used JB+

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jefft Click here to enlarge
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    Thank you everyone, jesh, 1st post and i get all this info within 6 hours! Great forum. Still on the fence though, but will start looking for a used JB+
    I started with the JB+ and ended with it, the JB4 was awesome for power but choppy throttle hampered my aggressive daily driving. Cobb was supposed to be much better, but I didn't care for the power delivery there either and wasn't committed enough to go with a pro tune.

    IMO, JB+ on 75-100% setting running 93-95 (mix a bit of e85) octane is perfect for a decent bump and no hassle, my car retains a buttery smooth stock throttle and yet the car is able to do 0-60 in 4 seconds flat, 12.5 @ 110mph 1/4 and all for $115 (used) off e90post classifieds. I originally threw codes but since I mix a bit of e85 in I haven't had a code yet on the 100% setting.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
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    this post is full of mis-information. You should not throw a P30FF code (thats a boost leak code) with a Jb+.
    Please go back and do some basic research before typing on the internet. Do a search for the term: "Solenoid by-pass". First performed by vishnu in the early days of N54 tuning, it is required for all the basic piggy backs: e.g: SSTT, JB+, JB2, etc. If you do not perform the solenoid by pass, you will get code: 30FF.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ATP Click here to enlarge
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    Should probably be noted that intake can be as simple as a better flwoing drop in.
    Specifically termed: DCI, or Drop in panel filter, by cobb. But why correct all the Mr. Knowitalls, online?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by amclint Click here to enlarge
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    IMO, JB+ on 75-100% setting running 93-95 (mix a bit of e85) octane is perfect for a decent bump and no hassle, my car retains a buttery smooth stock throttle and yet the car is able to do 0-60 in 4 seconds flat, 12.5 @ 110mph 1/4 and all for $115 (used) off e90post classifieds. I originally threw codes but since I mix a bit of e85 in I haven't had a code yet on the 100% setting.
    Search for my post on JB+, and E85. What a nightmarish experience, to say the least! Also, note that the stock throttle, is heavy on the LAG, as the factory, detuned the vehicle after replacing the HPFP. Cobb's linear throttle setting corrects this issue.

    Finally, OP, be aware of the issues associated with E85, before taking the plunge. Besides, some of the other basic issues with the fuel, corrosion, as well as rubber component degradation (gaskets) will be a big problem for many, down the road.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
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    Please go back and do some basic research before typing on the internet. Do a search for the term: "Solenoid by-pass". First performed by vishnu in the early days of N54 tuning, it is required for all the basic piggy backs: e.g: SSTT, JB+, JB2, etc. If you do not perform the solenoid by pass, you will get code: 30FF.
    Like I said we sell around 10 JB+ per week, have for years, so I'm fairly familiar with the support issues. At the default setting it's rare to see 30FF codes. If the car has loose wastegates, etc, then it can come up but it's few and far between. The better fix is just reducing the dial setting as doing the bypass can have side effects (like cold weather 30FE codes, etc). Now if you crank up the dial then those 30FF codes become more common becuase you are asking the DME to add more duty cycle than it expects. Sooner or later it protests.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jefft Click here to enlarge
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    I tried searching JB+ but nothing came up.
    There's a reason for that.

    The JB+ will just make you hungry for more anyway. You should go with the JB4 right away.

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    Thank you everyone, jesh, 1st post and i get all this info within 6 hours! Great forum. Still on the fence though, but will start looking for a used JB+
    Ya looks like someone had a very good concept with this forum, I come across lot's of great info too.

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    I have tried to contact a few with a used JB+ but havn't heard back yet.

    It sound like if I keep the boost low, I shouldn't see any codes.

    What does one do if the codes mentioned above show up? Do I need a dealer to clear? Does the code have any effects on the engine once it shows up?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
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    Specifically termed: DCI, or Drop in panel filter, by cobb. But why correct all the Mr. Knowitalls, online?
    I just wanted to clarify, not necessarily correct. Why must you always try to ruffle feathers?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jefft Click here to enlarge
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    Thank you everyone, jesh, 1st post and i get all this info within 6 hours! Great forum. Still on the fence though, but will start looking for a used JB+
    Let's put it this way.

    The JB+ is like a hand job, sure it's nice, but you know what you REALLY want. Go Jb4 do it once, do it right.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
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    I had a JB+ for 3 years, in my '07 that came without an oil cooler. It's a nice little boost controller, however it does have it's limitations. The current BMW software is extremely sensitive to mods, and after the update, I had codes with JB+, even at 50%. You will have to do a solenoid bypass, or you will keep throwing 30FF. Also note that with the stock software, you will throw 30FE in the cold, with JB+.

    Consider ditching that stock software, and replacing it with cobb. With cobb, you can run a mild setup for some nice horsepower. I Think all you need for stage 1 is an updated intercooler. I do highly recommend you do an oil cooler retrofit like I did.
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    Please go back and do some basic research before typing on the internet. Do a search for the term: "Solenoid by-pass". First performed by vishnu in the early days of N54 tuning, it is required for all the basic piggy backs: e.g: SSTT, JB+, JB2, etc. If you do not perform the solenoid by pass, you will get code: 30FF.
    Am I the only one who still holds a grudge against this guy from his nonsense in his E85 thread? I don't understand why people act like they know everything, even when more knowledgeable people attempt to correct him.

    Damn you internutz!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
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    Am I the only one who still holds a grudge against this guy from his nonsense in his E85 thread? I don't understand why people act like they know everything, even when more knowledgeable people attempt to correct him.

    Damn you internutz!
    You're not the only member of the Turkeybasters-Haters Club
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    turkeyblasters posts are hilarious.... always..... add me to that club
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