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    Hey OP,
    I am currently running a Procede with the E85 maps. I run a 50/50 mix and i am definitely maxing my trims. Even after raising OL values on both the user adjustable setting and updating the table. I had to severely cut boost to make sure my trims fell to an acceptable area. I recently switch to the 7-29 auto tune maps, and while my AFR is looking good, I am maxing trims as well. I am going to fill up with an E30 mix and see what the 7-29 maps will do, but as for now I will be switching to Cobb hopefully soon. Why not create a map with a lower percentage ethanol content if its shown that our cars dont handle high ethanol content well? Not to mention that I also reached out with several attempts for support and no response was ever sent, yet when I called about purchasing something they were glad to help. Also, I asked about the procede flash and the turn around time, and got "Well it depends on when we get to it, but it will take probably two days" Really? something that was stated to take no more then an hour or 2, you need my DME for 2 days? Come on! Sorry for the long rant, just figured I should for warn you. Good luck either way, and hope this helps!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aced16 Click here to enlarge
    Not to mention that I also reached out with several attempts for support and no response was ever sent, yet when I called about purchasing something they were glad to help
    It's almost getting absurd how often this is being written on the forums...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Will not run meth nor do I want too... I guess I am the only one that sees the absurdity of running 2 forms of alcohol mixed with gasoline to fuel a street car...
    This is a great forum for information. However, it is important to weed out ignorance like you just did, when probing for information.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
    This is a great forum for information. However, it is important to weed out ignorance like you just did, when probing for information.
    You're lecturing others on ignorance?

    Meth has some very valid uses with pump gas especially.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You're lecturing others on ignorance?

    Meth has some very valid uses with pump gas especially.
    Sticky please read: E90Flo's suggestion is to run both meth, and E85. Something the OP found, ridiculous. Are you defending ignorance?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
    I would run Meth + 93 before I ran E85 and here is why, Meth does more then just cooling, it has cleaning abilities as well as fueling abilities.
    Meth is also TOXIC, thorough inhalation, ingestion, or skin contact. You've been running around doubling your risk of cancer.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    ethanol is the same as methanol
    What? both are alcohols, but 2 different types. Methanol is very toxic for instance, while ethanol has zero toxicity. I'd consider that a major difference.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
    Sticky please read: E90Flo's suggestion is to run both meth, and E85. Something the OP found, ridiculous. Are you defending ignorance?
    He said he does not run meth period. I'm saying there are applications for it that have merit. I'm not saying to run it with ethanol hence his point of two forms of alcohol. I'm not defending ignorance, for whatever reason you're embracing it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
    What? both are alcohols, but 2 different types. Methanol is very toxic for instance, while ethanol has zero toxicity. I'd consider that a major difference.
    Uh.. As a fuel, VERY similarYes there are pretty decent chemical differences, but as a fuel, you'd not notice a world of difference.. Varying heat capacities, oxygen content.. a few hp difference? When you stand facing east holding your tongue at the right angle..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
    Meth is also TOXIC, thorough inhalation, ingestion, or skin contact. You've been running around doubling your risk of cancer.
    It is also neutralized by ethanol

    Why would you inhale, ingest, or touch it?

    also, it's not a carcinogen, it makes you blind. No cancer..

    it's not much a different risk to petrol.

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    Ok if you don't want to run meth because you don't understand it, thats good, and safer.

    But I wouldn't call something that is used for more then just fueling (think of the cleaning benefits)

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
    Sticky please read: E90Flo's suggestion is to run both meth, and E85. Something the OP found, ridiculous. Are you defending ignorance?
    In the OP's case, i would be of his benefit to run both Meth injection, and E85 with Procede only (no Procede Flash). Without the flash or Meth injection, the Procede unit only can do nothing to prevent the DME from pulling timing due to IAT. Meth will cool the charge air temps and allow the DME to continue to targeting proper timing. Anyone who has run high boost on stock twins can attest that it doesnt take a whole lot to get charge air temps above 104*, which is where the DME will starting reducing its timing targets. This is true for both Procede and JB4.
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    I am really hearing... buy a Cobb AP here... I know shivs sketchy ways and empty promises, trust me. He's done a ton for this platform but he is generally speaking a shady character. Procede flash...lol, most know what that means. Fuel pump upgrade, NLS and 2 step? ... All things Shiv thought of as absurd at one point... and now, no one has even heard or seen a real running single for weeks. lolol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    It is also neutralized by ethanol

    Why would you inhale, ingest, or touch it?

    also, it's not a carcinogen, it makes you blind. No cancer..

    it's not much a different risk to petrol.
    Methanol is a MUTAGEN. i.e; toxic to developing cells. Most mutagens are carcinogenic. You will passively inhale methanol, as the tank in the trunk dissipates gases to you and your occupants. If you have the stuff lying around in your garage, a child could conceivably drink it.

    Consider the fact that in many countries it is illegal to possess, because of it's extreme toxicity. So if you are pulled over, and are found in possession, you go to jail.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    I am really hearing... buy a Cobb AP here... I know shivs sketchy ways and empty promises, trust me. He's done a ton for this platform but he is generally speaking a shady character. Procede flash...lol, most know what that means. Fuel pump upgrade, NLS and 2 step? ... All things Shiv thought of as absurd at one point... and now, no one has even heard or seen a real running single for weeks. lolol
    Shiv's two faced behaviour, strikes me as slightly Sociopathic.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turkeybaster115 Click here to enlarge
    Methanol is a MUTAGEN. i.e; toxic to developing cells. Most mutagens are carcinogenic. You will passively inhale methanol, as the tank in the trunk dissipates gases to you and your occupants. If you have the stuff lying around in your garage, a child could conceivably drink it.

    Consider the fact that in many countries it is illegal to possess, because of it's extreme toxicity. So if you are pulled over, and are found in possession, you go to jail.
    Wow, here in australia.. Well you can buy 10% metho at the shops for nothing

    and you're even allowed to home distill small amounts of ethanol which leaves you with ~500ml odd per batch, of methanol.


    Oh look, i have proof you are talking out of your ass

    NOT A CARCINOGEN

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_economy

    it metabolizes to formaldehyde IN LARGE AMOUNTS which is carcinogenic

    nor is it mutagenic

    it's just regular plain poisonous..

    I you read carefully however, PETROL is carcinogenic, and also absorbed through the skin.. Would you fancy that!

    and if your trunk is leaking fumes from the tank, it'll be leaking petrol (or e85, as it's almost identical to meth..) too which is dangerous anyway.

    Tl;dr stop trolling idiots..
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    bump... any other results for people running the procede with E85 mixes with and without the flash?
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    There's lots on e90. Basically the cars ran OK, then they ran great with the flash.
    A flash of some kind is required. I thought we were discussing which one you should get, and that's clear it's COBB.

    So to summarize:
    Q Do I need a flash?
    A Yes.

    Q Which flash do I need?
    A COBB.
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    I would go AWIC anytime over Meth.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by uniter Click here to enlarge
    There's lots on e90. Basically the cars ran OK, then they ran great with the flash.
    A flash of some kind is required. I thought we were discussing which one you should get, and that's clear it's COBB.

    So to summarize:
    Q Do I need a flash?
    A Yes.

    Q Which flash do I need?
    A COBB.
    I take it you don't mean E90 as in 90% ethanol? lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    bump... any other results for people running the procede with E85 mixes with and without the flash?
    I'm sure most run e85 without flash. Some cars have weak LPFP though, so they need to run less than 50% of e85. Flashed cars can run even straight e85.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by uniter Click here to enlarge
    There's lots on e90. Basically the cars ran OK, then they ran great with the flash.
    A flash of some kind is required. I thought we were discussing which one you should get, and that's clear it's COBB.

    So to summarize:
    Q Do I need a flash?
    A Yes.

    Q Which flash do I need?
    A COBB.
    The first one depends really. Regarding flash, there is not only one tuner who can flash...

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    Re methanol vs ethanol, you can as well spray ethanol into your charge pipe. The benefits are similar. Or you can pour some meth into your fuel tank. You are limited into thinking that only meth is sprayed into charge pipe. E.g. Big Tom sprayed ethanol only. An additional benefit for some is that spraying alcohol into the charge pipe directly alleviates possible fueling adequacy problems.

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